赛季至今，库里真实投篮命中率为68.5%，詹姆斯的真实投篮命中率为67.1%。是联盟场均20分及以上真实投篮命中率最高的两位球员。

库里再过几个月就36岁了，在三项命中率接近180（48%/45%/93%）的情况下，场均30.4分4.8篮板3.6助攻。

詹姆斯还有一个月就满39岁了，他在第四节场均得分和第四节正负值均为联盟第一。禁区投篮命中率联盟第一（禁区投篮命中率排名：1、詹姆斯81.7% 2、字母哥80.9% 3、库兹马 76.1%）。詹姆斯在得分、助攻、场均得分和正负值方面都为湖人队内第一，篮板、盖帽、抢断和三分命中率方面排名球队第二。Reddit晒出库里、詹姆斯这一数据，引来热议，一起来看看球迷如何评论！

Everyone tryna determine who’s the next face of the league but it’s still the Lebron and Steph era

每个人都想确定谁是联盟的下一个代言人，但现在仍然是詹姆斯和库里的时代。

yeah jokic and giannis are the best players but idk if it’s really even their time they’ve been in the league 8+ years but lebron and steph are still among the best and dont really show signs of stopping. they may even have their primes end before bron and steph who knows

是的，约基奇和字母哥是最好的球员，但我不知道这是否真的是他们的时代，他们已经在联盟中8年多了，但勒布朗和史蒂芬仍然是最好的，并没有真正显示出停止的迹象。

LeBron's prime has absolutely ended lol

The version of him now is good but is nothing compared to 2013 or 2018 LeBron

It's just that he was on the Tier 1A of all time greats(top 2) during his prime so has to drop like 4 or 5 tiers before he's no longer All NBA caliber

Even top 10ish all time guys like Kobe are a tier below peak LeBron so that's a LONG way to go

勒布朗的巅峰时期已经结束了，哈哈

现在的勒布朗虽然不错，但与2013年或2018年的勒布朗相比，简直是小巫见大巫，只是他在巅峰时期是历史最佳球员的1A级（历史前二），所以在他不再是赛季最佳阵容级球员之前，他下降4或5级。即使是科比这样的历史前十名球员，也比巅峰期的勒布朗低一个级别，所以还有很长的路要走。

Lebron has basically redefined what prime means because he's been elite for 20 straight seasons.

勒布朗基本上重新定义了巅峰时期的含义，因为他已经连续20个赛季都是精英球员。

He’s playing comparable to 2018 Lebron right now, imo. His jumper is looking as good as it was during that season. Almost every fade away or three he takes I’m thinking it’s cash unlike last season.

在我看来，他现在的表现堪比2018年的勒布朗。他的跳投看起来和那个赛季一样好，几乎他的每一次虚晃或三分球，我都觉得是兑现了上赛季的表现。

I don't think there's a notion of comparing a regular season Lebron to 2018 Lebron writ large. 2018 playoff Lebron, I'm sure you'd agree, was worlds better. You just could feel him barrel towards a win. Now, even if he plays amazingly, it doesn't feel like he could will his team to a victory every night. But Lebron improves in the playoffs. So who knows? Maybe this year, in the playoffs, he will be comparable. I'm generally skeptical he can be that level of player again, which was the undisputed number 1 in the league with room to spare. But motherfucker has proved me wrong enough times for me to stop doubting. I'm a pistons fan who agonizingly watched Lebron score every one of his 25 straight points 2 days after I said he was overrated.

To be clear, I am a lebron stan, so I sure hope I'm proven wrong.

我不认为存在将常规赛勒布朗与2018年勒布朗相提并论的概念，2018 年季后赛的勒布朗，我相信你会同意，是世界上最好的。你就是能感觉到他在向胜利冲刺。现在，即使他打出了惊人的表现，你也感觉不到他每晚都能带领球队取得胜利。但勒布朗在季后赛中会进步。谁知道呢？也许今年，在季后赛中，他的表现会不相上下。我普遍怀疑他能否再次成为那种水平的球员，那是联盟中无可争议的第一人，而且还有余力。但这个家伙已经证明我错了很多次，让我不再怀疑。我是一个活塞球迷，在我说他被高估的两天后，我痛苦地看着勒布朗连得25分。说白了，我是在詹姆斯球迷，所以我当然希望我被证明是错的。

I hope people appreciate these guys when they're gone, just incredible players to have followed for 15+ years. My ultimate basketball take was that Steph was going to be a superstar after watching him light it up in college, I'll never have a sports take end up that well again.

我希望人们在这些人离开后能懂得珍惜，他们是追随了15年以上的不可思议的球员。我对篮球的终极看法是，库里在大学时的表现让人眼前一亮，他将会成为超级巨星。我再也不会有那么好的体育比赛了。

His true shooting percentages are better than Duncan’s pre Achilles tear. Kobe was always positive in relative TS. The idea he was inefficient is false. You can’t win in this league as the main guy being less efficient than the league.

他的真实投篮命中率比跟腱撕裂前的邓肯还要高，科比的真实投篮命中率一直高于联盟平均水准。他效率低下的说法是错误的。在这个联盟中，你不可能在主力效率低于联盟的情况下获胜。

I feel like most reasonable people who bring up inefficiency when talking Kobe are referring specifically to the context of the GOAT debate or at least all-time greats. His TS is positive relative to the league in his era but that's not what he's being compared to here.

我觉得大多数有理智的人在谈论科比时提到低效率，都是特指GOAT辩论的背景，或者至少是指历史上的伟大球员。相对于他那个时代的联盟，他的真实投篮命中率不错，但这不是他在这里被比较的对象。

Yeah he was inefficient by today's standards, but 2000s NBA as a whole was inefficient by today's standards. It was a dark age of basketball. Kobe was a great player who didn't know what we know today.

是的，以今天的标准来看，他的效率很低，但以今天的标准来看，2000 年代的 NBA整体效率很低。那是篮球的黑暗时代。科比是一位伟大的球员，但他并不了解我们今天所知道的东西。

The comparison to Duncan comes up a lot nowadays, and it always blows my mind. Like, you realize that Duncan is not considered an all-time great primarily because of his value in the offensive side of the floor? Duncan has a good case as the best defensive player of the last 50 years. If you're going to try to claim to be a better player than him primarily based off your offensive value, you had better be way more efficient than him there.

When you compare Kobe to other greats of the era who did primarily derive their value on the offensive end (guys like Dirk and Nash), Kobe is way behind them in efficiency. He probably makes up for it in volume and defensive value compared to those two, but it's nothing like LeBron, Steph, and KD being at the absolute top of the charts for efficiency and volume.

如今，与邓肯的比较经常出现，这总是让我大吃一惊。比如，你知道邓肯之所以被认为是史上最伟大的球员，主要不是因为他在进攻端的价值吗？邓肯有足够的理由成为过去 50 年里最好的防守球员。如果你想声称自己是比他更好的球员，那你最好在进攻端比他更有效率。当你将科比与那个时代其他主要在进攻端创造价值的伟大球员（如德克和纳什）相比时，科比在效率上远远落后于他们。与这两位相比，他可能在产量和防守价值上有所弥补，但这与勒布朗、斯蒂芬和 KD 在效率和数量上处于绝对榜首的情况完全不同。

Appreciating then when they're gone is easy. People should appreciate them more now, while they're still around.

当他们离去时，欣赏他们很容易。现在，人们应该趁他们还在的时候多欣赏他们。

Hes got 70% FG in the clutch lol

他（詹姆斯）在关键时刻的投篮命中率高达 70%。哈哈

Not related, but there is a good chance Bron will play 7 or more seasons as a Laker player, which exceeds his 1st stint as a Cavs. Just mind-blowing.

与此无关，但布朗很有可能在湖人队效力 7 个或更多赛季，这超过了他在骑士队1.0时期，真是令人难以置信。

Everyone was assuming Bron will falling off a cliff when his athleticism declines, which is not a unreasonable take in itself.

What they didn't considered was LeBron's athleticism hardly fucking decline after 20 years. He needs to coast more on defensive side and lacks a tad burst compared to his younger years, but most of the time he's still the strongest and most athletic player on the court despite being 39 years old. Truly a genetic freak.

所有人都认为，当勒布朗的运动能力下降时，他会从悬崖上掉下来，这本身并不是不合理的。但他们没有想到的是，勒布朗的运动能力在 20 年后几乎没有下降。与年轻时相比，他在防守端需要更多的对抗，爆发力也稍显不足，但大多数时候，尽管他已经 39 岁了，他仍然是球场上最强壮、运动能力最强的球员。真正的基因怪胎。

I mean, his athleticism definitely has declined. It’s just that it has declined from the level of “possibly the most athletic ever” to “above average NBA player”. Which is insane in and of itself.

我的意思是，他的运动能力肯定下降了。只是他的运动能力从 "可能是史上运动能力最强的球员 "下降到了 "高于NBA平均水平的球员"。这本身就很疯狂。

Idk LeBron is definitely much better than above average athletically for me. In terms of speed maybe, but once you take into account his strength and vertical he’s still in that top 10% range.

在我看来，勒布朗的运动能力绝对比平均水平要强得多。就速度而言也许是这样，但一旦考虑到他的力量和垂直能力，他仍然在联盟前10%范围内。

39 definitely isn’t twilight age. That’s retired for 3 years already age for 95% of nba players

39 岁绝对不是暮年，对于95%的 NBA 球员来说，这已经是退役 3 年的年龄了。

He's not improving he's just been in the league long enough to find himself in an era with worse defense and better spacing.

他并没有进步，他只是在联盟中待得太久，发现自己身处一个防守更差、空间更大的时代。

And imagine him maintaining his efficiency if the Lakers can shoot like an average team in the NBA lol

试想一下，如果湖人队的投篮命中率能达到 NBA一般球队的水平，他还能保持这样的效率吗？

every single year. And I'm sure y'all will have a fire sale at the deadline again and bring in another lineup of random role players who will also somehow shoot 28% from 3

每一年都是如此。我敢肯定，你们会在截止日期前再来一次大甩卖，再引进一批随意的角色球员，他们的三分球命中率也会莫名其妙地达到 28%。

It’s insane that Bron has tried convincing us that AD is gonna be the first option for like four years and still is the Lakers’ MVP by far

詹姆斯试图让我们相信浓眉大当家已经有四年之久，但到目前为止他仍然是湖人队的MVP，这太疯狂了。

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